The engine of any car has an identification number. The number must be displayed in the main document on the car - the technical equipment passport (PTS). In some cases, the engine number may not be indicated in the vehicle title or the data may not match. In such a situation, the driver may be denied registration of the vehicle, so the car owner needs to correct the data in the passport.
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How to check the number
The engine number is indicated on the power unit housing. There are no uniform rules for placing the number on the engine, so automakers can indicate information in various parts of the engine:
- on the cylinder block body;
- at the junction of the engine and transmission;
- near the intake manifold;
- near the dipstick to check the oil level, etc.
The engine number is also indicated on the information plate along with other information.
The decal is usually located on the front passenger door pillar, but may also be located in the engine compartment or trunk.
The engine number is also indicated in the PTS and vehicle certificate. The combination of letters and numbers in the documents and on the power unit itself must match completely.
Mismatch of information in passport
There are often situations when the number on the engine itself and the data indicated in the PTS do not match. This is due to a legal conflict that happened several years ago.
By Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs No. 28 of January 20, 2011, the mandatory verification of vehicle identification numbers with the information in the passport when registering a vehicle was abolished. Two years later, the order was canceled. However, during this period, many car owners could change the engines of their cars without reflecting the changes in the title. As a result, a large array of cars with inconsistent information was formed.
A discrepancy between the numbers on the engine body and the documents is a limitation for vehicle registration. It is possible to correct the situation - if the engine is not listed in the database of stolen engines and has the same technical characteristics as the original, then it can be legitimized by changing the number in the vehicle title.
In rare cases, a discrepancy in data is caused by a simple mistake by the employee filling out the PTS. In this case, the VIN number determines what number the engine should have. If a simple error is detected in a document, then a simple correction of the data is made.
The number on the engine is missing or does not match. What to do?
When buying a used car, carefully check all the number plates, in particular the engine.
The engine number that is indicated on your PTS must match the one installed on the car. But what should you do if you still bought a car and the traffic police refused to register the vehicle when registering the vehicle? Firstly, we need to figure out what this is connected with. The main thing is that this car is not listed as stolen. If an expert discovers that the license plate on the engine has been filed off, then most likely a criminal case will be opened and the car will be seized until all the circumstances of the case are clarified. During the investigation, you will turn into a pedestrian. If it turns out that the car is indeed criminal, it will be confiscated from you. But it may also turn out that the car itself was not stolen, and the engine that was installed on it was removed from a stolen car. This is also a crime and most likely the car will be confiscated. If the engine was changed and the previous owner did not enter the data into the title, you may also be denied registration. The engine number must match the number on the vehicle title. An exception is possible if the engine model matches the model in the title, then perhaps the employees will register the car. This is due to the fact that our transport tax is tied to horsepower and by changing the engine to another model with more power, you avoid increased transport tax. Therefore, you will be required to register a new license plate in order to add it to the PTS. But still, if this happens, what should you do? If you have a number on your engine, but it is not written in, you need to register it and make changes to the title. You must also have documents confirming its purchase, that you did not steal it or did not remove it from a stolen car. And go again to the traffic police and register the car.
If there is no number on the engine? The engine was sold without a license plate. Likewise, you need to register it and make changes to the PTS. What if the number was cut down or interrupted? Most likely there is crime here. There will be an investigation and only based on the results of the investigation and examination you will be given a decision. If the expert admits that there is no criminal component, then you will also need to register the license plate unit, in our case it is without a license plate, and make changes to the PTS.
The worst thing is if it is a crime. Then most likely you will lose the car and the money spent on its purchase. Be more careful when buying a car.
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How to change data
The ability to change the engine depends on several factors.
- Legality of the motor.
- Technical characteristics of the engine.
- Availability of documents for the motor.
The legality of the engine means that the engine is not listed in the traffic police database among stolen car parts. Specifications are important to determine that the engine is suitable for the vehicle and can be installed in it. Documentation for the power unit confirms the legality of the purchase and the compliance of the engine with the characteristics of the car.
What you need
If the engine model does not match the one that was installed on the car, then a technical examination will be required from an accredited organization. The list of organizations is posted on the official website of the Eurasian Economic Commission. As a rule, these are regional inspections and technical supervision departments. The possibility of changing data in the PTS depends on the expert opinion of the organization. If the car owner still has a conclusion from the seller, then there is no need to undergo the examination again. .
To smoothly make changes to the title, you will need documents for the new engine (registration certificate and installation documents).
Step by Step Actions
The procedure for making changes to the PTS is as follows.
- The car owner applies to the traffic police MREO with an application to change the information in the vehicle passport.
- When submitting an application, you are provided with a full package of documents for the car (PTS, STS, OSAGO policy, purchase and sale agreement), engine (registration certificate, purchase and sale agreement, declaration-statement from the car service center where the replacement was made), as well as the personal passport of the car owner.
- The driver fills out an application to change the data and pays the state fee.
- An MREO employee inspects the car, checks the engine against the database. If there are no complaints, changes to the PTS are made immediately.
If you just need to correct the engine number in the PTS, then a new passport will not be issued. The MREO employee makes a mark on the old sample document.
Checking engine number
First of all, it is important to understand that installing a so-called “non-standard” engine is an independent modification of the vehicle. Naturally, after such a replacement of the engine for tuning the car, registration of the vehicle may be refused on completely legal grounds.
Simply put, with a new engine, which is usually deliberately selected more powerful than the standard one, a number of the most important technical characteristics of the car also change. At the same time, such vehicles and their systems must be specially modified, otherwise it will not be possible to register and drive this vehicle on public roads.
It’s another matter if the motor was replaced with an absolutely similar one, that is, no changes to the standard factory design occurred. The only controversial point will be a different power unit number. Now let's move on to the problem itself.
So, the new order no longer contains any indication that the engine number does not need to be verified, and the discrepancy between the numbered units and the submitted documents serves as a basis for refusal of registration. It turns out that the situation is twofold. On the one hand, the first order allowed replacing the engine with exactly the same unit, but then the second order prohibited this.
As a result, from 2011 to 2013, all cars in which the internal combustion engine was replaced could not be registered, that is, officially registered. So, if you purchase a used car on which the engine has been replaced, but there are no corresponding marks in the title, difficulties arise. What makes the situation even worse is the fact that the requirements differ from one area to another.
Changes to the vehicle registration number when replacing an engine
If the number in the PTS changes due to an engine replacement, then the procedure is as follows.
- You must contact the traffic police MREO to obtain permission to replace the engine. When applying, you must provide documents for the power unit (purchase agreement, transfer and acceptance certificate, part registration certificate). If the engine model is different than what was previously installed on the machine, then it is necessary to obtain a conclusion from an expert organization.
- After obtaining permission, it is necessary to replace the engine at a licensed car service center. After the replacement, you need to obtain from the service a copy of the organization’s license and certificates, as well as a declaration for the work performed.
- Then the vehicle undergoes a technical inspection and a new diagnostic card is obtained.
- Next, you need to contact an expert organization and re-examine the car.
- With a positive expert opinion and documents, you need to come to the MREO and submit an application to change the information in the PTS, paying a state fee of 800 rubles.
- As a result, the car owner is issued a PTS with corrected data and a Certificate of Changes to the Design of the Car.
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Yesterday I registered the car, took a closer look at the registration certificate: the “engine model” column is empty, and so is the “engine number”. I'm shocked. Interestingly, they won’t write the engine in the PTS for new cars now either?
PS: In general, congratulations, I bought myself a Ford Focus.
Did you look at the engine number?
Congratulations on your purchase!
No nail, no rod!
Congratulations on your purchase!
No nail, no rod!
Great! Now you can install engines from stolen cars and not bother!
Great! Now you can install engines from stolen cars and not bother!
Great! Now you can install engines from stolen cars and not bother!
Great! Now you can install engines from stolen cars and not bother!
On the one hand, I see problems: before, having come to an unofficial service or for non-original spare parts, they stupidly asked me for the STS, they punched the engine number on it, and looked for a spare part by the number - now it’s a damn thing, only by VIN.
By the wine number (which is recorded in the STS), all parts are perfectly searched.
When will there be photos with kefir? ZY Congratulations on your purchase.
FAQ
The question is often asked whether it is possible to drive a car with a replaced and not legalized engine. According to the rules of the State Traffic Safety Inspectorate, the operation of vehicles with unauthorized interference with the structure is prohibited. Formally, the driver is not required to carry a PTS with him, but if, when stopped by a traffic police officer, it turns out that the car is equipped with an engine with a number that does not correspond to the information in the PTS, then the operation of such a vehicle will be prohibited.
Violation is initially punishable by a fine; repeated violation may be punishable by a fine or deprivation of rights.
Tips and tricks
I would like to note that if you decide to buy a contract engine and make a swap, you first need to write a corresponding application and clarify information regarding what documents will be needed for further registration of the new engine.
Then you can purchase and install a contract unit on the machine, taking into account the preservation of all necessary documents. After this, you should contact the traffic police again to register the new engine. Of course, if this is not done, then the owner may not have any problems during further operation. However, when trying to cross the border or re-register such a car, the situation often changes.
Let us note once again that engine swaps for tuning and increasing power are done on cars that participate in sports competitions. As a rule, such vehicles do not travel on public roads. If such changes in the design of the car are officially registered, then, taking into account the recommended comprehensive modifications, the total cost of such tuning can be very high.
