What to do: the space on the title has run out and there is nowhere to add the new owner when selling the car

Buyers and sellers of used cars are often faced with a situation where there is no space on the title to fill out information about the new owner. The solution to this problem is to issue a duplicate document, which the previous owner or buyer can receive.

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No place in PTS

What is PTS and what is it intended for?

PTS stands for technical equipment passport. It is mandatory for each vehicle. Without this document, the car should not be allowed on the road. The PTS details are used to control vehicles imported into the Russian Federation. The absence of an original passport creates problems when selling stolen cars, which minimizes the number of thefts.

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The procedure for filling out the PTS occurs in the following order:

  • The first information entered into the passport is done by the manufacturer, who is considered the first owner of the car.
  • When crossing the border, the customs service makes the appropriate marks in the PTS of imported cars.
  • The following entry is made in the dealer’s showroom, since at the time of sale of the car, ownership passes to him.
  • Information on the following buyers is entered in order of priority.

Making a record of the owner is mandatory, otherwise driving a car is considered an offence. If he is stopped by a traffic police officer, a fine will be issued. An exception is the situation of driving a car with a power of attorney, drawn up in the form established by law.

Replacing PTS through State Services

The development of modern technologies makes it possible to avoid waiting in line. You can make an appointment with the State Traffic Inspectorate to replace the title, if there is no room for the new owner, online. To do this, you must use paragraph 2.1.1. Using the system, you can update or restore any vehicle document. However, the service is available only to users who have registered in the system and confirmed their account. If you have an account on the portal, you must proceed according to the following scheme:

  1. Log in to the system and then go to the main page. Here is the “services” section. You need to click on it, then go to the “transport and driving” category.

  1. View the list of available actions. Each service has a brief description. You need to click on the “vehicle registration” section.

  2. Re-read the list of actions. In the list that opens, you need to click on the item “loss of documents or changes in vehicle data.”

  3. If all procedures are completed correctly, the citizen will have 2 services that can be used. You need to select the one you need. The system will display information about the service. You have to choose its type. To do this, click on the appropriate button. The citizen will be redirected to the next section.

  4. The system will prompt you to fill out a form. It is important to enter information about the car and the applicant. Next, you need to reflect the appropriate time to visit the State Traffic Inspectorate.
  5. It is necessary to check the information provided. If all information is correct, you must submit your application. After this, the document will be accepted for processing. We'll just have to wait for an answer. Information about it will appear in your personal account. If the application is accepted, the details for paying the state fee will additionally be displayed. Funds must be transferred in advance.
  6. On the appointed day you will visit the organization’s office. You must take with you the original documents, information about which was indicated during the application process. It's important to arrive on time. It is better to drive a car for which the title is being reissued. In most cases, an inspection is not carried out, but sometimes it may be initiated. Applying through State Services allows you to get rid of the need to wait in line. The person will be assigned a serial number. All you have to do is wait for the call.
  7. A representative of the authorized body will send the papers for verification. They will be studied in detail. If no errors are identified, the person will be able to receive a new PTS, in exchange for documents in which there is no place for the new owner.

How many seats are available?

The passport form is standard for all cars. It is possible to enter data for only 6 owners. When the space for entries in the PTS runs out, the document must be replaced.

Important! Information can be entered into the PTS even if the owner does not change. For example, a citizen changed his full name. or place of registration. Changes in such important details as the engine or a change in body paint color also result in the appearance of new entries.

It is worth noting that the law does not establish an obligation to make entries in order. For example, if after the 3rd entry the owner was entered, skipping a few lines, in place 5 of the entry, then the subsequent entry is made in the 4th place. The document cannot be replaced as long as it contains empty lines for recording.

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What to do if you run out of space in the title and there is nowhere to add a new owner?


The PTS form provides space for only six owners. They fill up very quickly. Even in the case of a new car, two sections will already be filled out of the showroom.

One will contain information about the manufacturer (customs clearance), the other - about the salon.

Information is copied to an empty section in two cases:

  1. when the owner changes his surname, this mainly applies to married women;
  2. when repainting a car, replacing a body or engine.

Therefore, replacing the title due to lack of space may be necessary not only in the case of an old car or one that has been in the hands of many resellers. If such a problem occurs, the PTS must be replaced.

Replacement if there is no space

If the owner, whose data is entered in the sixth column of the PTS, does not plan to sell the car, then he uses a fully completed PTS. It will only have to be changed during subsequent sales or donation transactions. In some cases, during a sale, an agreement is concluded between the buyer and the seller that a new passport, instead of a completely filled one, will be issued to the buyer.

In addition to personal application, the car owner has the opportunity to replace his passport through the State Services portal. Authorized users can make an appointment with the traffic police for a specific time or submit an electronic application.

To do this, follow the following algorithm:

  • Choose vehicle registration services.
  • They move on to a group of services that includes replacing the PTS to replace an unusable one.
  • When registering, the type of service is electronic, after which an application is filled out electronically.
  • The application is sent, after which a receipt for payment of the fee is generated. If you deposit funds through the site’s system, you can get a 30% discount. When paying by bank transfer through terminals, the duty amount is charged at 100%.
  • At the selected time by appointment, the applicant brings to the inspection a package of documents and an application printed from the website. If necessary, the vehicle is inspected.
  • After the inspector verifies the documents, a new title will be issued.

The advantage of using the portal is the ability to minimize the waiting time for an appointment, since the applicant is given a specific time.

Preparation of necessary documents

It must be emphasized that there are no inserts that are supposedly issued by the traffic police when space in the main document runs out. This is fiction. When the PTS runs out of space, it must be replaced.

To do this, you will need to collect the following set of documents:

  • Passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation. If for some reason it is not available, any other document that, by law, has the right to replace it, will do. This could be a military ID, a sailor's passport, or a diplomatic passport.
  • PTS. All sections reserved for registering users must be filled out. Otherwise they won't change it for you.
  • STS. This document and the PTS have the same serial number, so when replacing one document, the other must also be changed.
  • A valid compulsory motor vehicle insurance policy. The law stipulates that all actions for registering vehicles (replacing a vehicle title falls under this category) are carried out only if you have valid insurance.
  • Contract of sale. It is not necessary in all cases, but this will be discussed below.

Replacement before selling the car

When selling a car, the fact of transfer of ownership is necessarily reflected in the title. But if there is no space left in it, then the owner is advised to first replace the passport and then sell the car. If the re-registration has not been completed, then it is better for the seller and buyer to go to the traffic police together. The decision on who should bear the cost of paying the state duty is made by agreement.

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It is not established by law who should replace the title: the seller or the buyer. Therefore, if the new owner does this without the old owner, they cannot refuse him. If the application is correctly drawn up and a complete set of documents is available, re-registration does not require much time. Simultaneously with the application for replacement of the PTS, it is possible to submit applications for deletion and new registration.

Who should make a new vehicle registration certificate?

Who should replace the vehicle passport? The seller must change the title. It’s easier and faster for him to do this than for the buyer. By law, the current owner of the car must change the title.

Experts advise changing it in advance, as soon as it runs out of free partitions. This will allow you to take your time and exchange documents at your own convenience.

If the seller has not taken care of exchanging the completed title in advance, he should initiate the exchange process as soon as the decision is made to sell the car.

In this case, there is a high probability that the exchange will be completed by the time a buyer is found, and it will be possible to safely enter the new owner into the appropriate section of the new title.

Where to contact

The presence of a unified traffic police database allows citizens to communicate on the issue of re-registration of a title when selling a car at any convenient department of the service. In this case, you do not need to go to the inspection office located at the place of registration of the owner of the car. If you change your actual location, this could take a lot of time.

Advice! There is no legal requirement for a mandatory inspection of a vehicle upon receipt of a vehicle title. But if the inspector has doubts when checking documents, he may ask to present the car for inspection. It is recommended to empty the trunk in advance and clean the plate with the number to avoid unnecessary questions.

It is mandatory to inspect vehicles that have a design safety certificate. That is, individually assembled or modified serial models. This category also includes specimens previously supplied under state defense orders, or collected as individual technical creativity.

What is a vehicle passport and why is it needed?

PTS is a very important document. It “characterizes” the car from the legal side and performs 4 important functions at once:

  1. allows you to streamline the process of admitting vehicles to road traffic;
  2. increases the effectiveness of the anti-theft system and reduces the number of car thefts;
  3. strengthens control over cars imported into Russia;
  4. allows you to determine how respectable the car owner is in relation to the law.

List of documents

The procedure for replacing a PTS is simple; instead of a completed document, a duplicate is issued.

A citizen should draw up an application accompanied by the following documents:

  • Civil passport of the owner. If the car is registered under a power of attorney, then a passport of the authorized person is required.
  • Application for a new passport. A sample form is posted on the information boards of the departments and the service portal.
  • Old document. Its authenticity must be verified by authorized employees. Data on the body number, vehicle production date, unique engine number, and body color are verified.
  • Confirmation of payment of the state fee for the provision of the service.
  • MTPL insurance policy, indicating the participation of the car owner in the general liability insurance system. To obtain it, you need to pass a technical inspection.
  • Document proving ownership of the car. Ownership rights are transferred upon sale or gift. The personal information of the owner, important characteristics and identifiers of the car must be documented.

Important! The cost of the car, as determined by the text of the purchase and sale agreement, must correspond to its market value. Otherwise, traffic police officers may question the authenticity of the contract.

If all the information is reliable and the package of documents is complete, then a new PTS is produced. There is no provision for returning the old passport; it will be disposed of by the inspector.

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How to sell a vehicle when the document has expired?

If your title has expired and you are going to sell your car, this document will have to be changed. It is best to begin the exchange procedure even before the purchase and sale agreement is signed. Ideally, as soon as you have made the decision to sell.

  1. You should start by collecting all the documents listed above. There should be no problems with this - every car enthusiast should have them at home.
  2. After this, you need to drive your car to the traffic police MREO and park it on the observation deck. In case of exchange, you can choose any branch, not only at the place of its registration.
  3. Before the trip, you need to clear access to the places where the unit numbers are applied on the body and engine, and clean these places themselves from soot and dirt.
    If the employees of the organization responsible for checking vehicles decide to compare the numbers, this will save time for both you and them.

    Of course, it is not a fact that the car will need to be inspected. When a PTS is submitted for replacement due to the fact that it has run out of space, traffic police officers often treat the procedure formally. But if they want to check the numbers, the machine should be at hand, this, again, will save time.

  4. At the MREO you need to make an appointment with the inspector on duty.
  5. Fill out the application form for replacement of PTS. Sometimes the forms are at the information desk; if they are not there, you can get them in the same office.

Registration cost

Re-registration of the PTS will not require large financial costs. The established state duty is 800 rubles. When paying through the State Services electronic service, you can save 240 rubles, which is 30% of the established amount. There are no additional fees when paying the fee.

If, simultaneously with the renewal of the passport, a new car registration certificate is obtained, then another fee is paid, which is 500 rubles. When ordering a service through an electronic portal, you can save 150 rubles by paying only 350 rubles. Thus, the total cost of replacing a passport and certificate is 1.3 thousand rubles, of which 390 rubles can be saved by paying through State Services.

Documents for the operation

Are there any places left in the PTS? How to sell a vehicle under such circumstances? There is nothing difficult about it. You can conduct a transaction with an old registration certificate or order a duplicate of it. The second option is more preferable.

There is no room in the PTS - what to do?

What documents are required to reissue a registration certificate? In our case it is:

  • old technical passport of the car;
  • certificate of registration of movable property;
  • car insurance policy;
  • a completed application form for the issuance of a duplicate PTS;
  • checks indicating payment of the required duty;
  • identification card of the vehicle owner;
  • title document for the car.

The last one can be a deed of gift, a certificate of inheritance. Until a person confirms the rights to the property, the documents for the corresponding object will not be updated.

Deadlines for issuing PTS

The maximum period allotted to traffic police officers to issue a new PTS is 30 days. This includes the time required to complete additional inquiries. For example, there are grounds for clarifying the personal data of the car owner, sending requests to the MREO, where the owner was previously registered, clarifying information from service centers where work was carried out to replace the engine or repaint the body.

Time

The standard procedure for checking an application and documents takes several hours, so it is possible to sell a car and complete all documents in one day. If additional visual inspection of the car is required, a new title will be issued the next business day.

Replacement methods

There are two standard ways to replace a vehicle title if there is no room for a new owner. The classic method is a personal visit to the State Traffic Inspectorate and self-submission of an application. The car owner will have to go to the State Traffic Inspectorate, having previously prepared a package of documents. An alternative is to apply online. It does not eliminate the need to visit the authorized body, but it makes it possible to avoid queues. The citizen will determine in advance a convenient time to visit the authority and choose the department to which it is convenient for him to come.

The issuance of a new PTS, if there is no room in the old one for the new owner, is carried out on the day of application (clause 10 of the Regulations on PTS). The exception is situations when additional verification is necessary. In this case, the period is extended to 30 days from the date of receipt of the application.

Issuance of a duplicate

To obtain a duplicate PTS, a visual inspection by an inspector of the vehicle and verification of its VIN are not required. The owner just needs to fill out an application and attach documents from the approved list to it. A duplicate can be made within one business day.

Issuance of a duplicate

The issued document will contain the same vehicle registration details as the original. The only difference will be the indication in the paragraph reserved for information of a special nature that a replacement has been made. The replacement date and series of the previous passport are also indicated there.

Fees and deadlines


The period for replacing documents can range from one working day to one month. If MREO traffic police officers need to check any information, the period will be long; if they think that the check is not needed, the PTS will be replaced immediately.

The cost of replacing the PTS is 850 rubles. This is a state fee. You can pay it there at the MREO, at the cash desk.

It is useful to know that you can get a 30% discount on this fee. To do this, you need to pay it by bank transfer (from a bank card, electronic money or from your phone) from the government services portal. You can register there using the link https://esia.gosuslugi.ru/idp/rlogin?cc=bp Money will be debited from your account taking into account the discount.

Nuances

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Despite the simple algorithm for replacing PTS, problems sometimes occur. Most often they concern new car owners who are forced to independently change their passport after completing a purchase and sale transaction. It is not always possible to contact the previous owner, and service employees may refuse to re-register, citing the need for the presence of the former owner on the PTS.

Then you need to turn to Order No. 1001 of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, which establishes the obligation of car owners to register them. In this case, the main document in accordance with Art. 223 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, confirming the right of ownership, is a purchase and sale agreement. Thus, if a service employee refuses to reissue a passport, he violates the law. The applicant is advised to request the refusal in writing and then file a lawsuit.

I bought a car and did not find a free column

If the previous owner of the car did not take care to replace the title on time, and the buyer received it already completely filled out, without empty fields to fill out, the following must be done:

  1. Go to the traffic police MREO at the place where the vehicle was last registered.
  2. Bring with you your passport, title and vehicle registration certificate, compulsory motor liability insurance policy and purchase and sale agreement.
  3. Require MREO employees to replace the vehicle title on the basis of Order No. 1001 of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia dated November 24, 2008. It follows from this order that a vehicle passport that has run out of empty seats is considered unsuitable for further use.
    In this case, the replacement does not require the presence of the previous owner of the car; a document on the basis of which the current owner took ownership is sufficient.

General recommendations

If you do not know the intricacies of the law, then if controversial situations arise with the traffic police, you should involve an experienced lawyer. With his participation, it will be easier to re-register the document if the previous owner did not do so. In addition, you should study the terms and conditions of car insurance. The text must contain a clause about the extension of the policy until the car is re-registered. If it is not there, then re-registration of the PTS will be legally denied.

Replacing a PTS due to lack of free lines is a simple procedure. The service is available by contacting the traffic police in person or through the State Services portal. The cost of a new document is low, but in order to save nerves and time when buying a used car, it is recommended to entrust the re-issuance of the title to the seller.

What is needed for replacement?

To exchange your old title for a new one, you need to write an application and collect several documents. Usually there are 6 of them, but in some cases the registration authorities may require additional papers.

For example, written consent of the owner of the car may be required if the owner and owner are different people. The applicant will be informed about the need to bring additional documents at the time of submitting the application.

The general list of documents looks like this:


  • application (it contains a request to replace the registration certificate);

  • identification card of the owner of the car;
  • old registration certificate with no free space;
  • insurance policy (without it, registration of a new passport is impossible);
  • document confirming ownership of the car;
  • a receipt confirming payment of the state duty.

The old car passport must be genuine and legal. Employees of the registration authority will hand it over to traffic police inspectors, and if inconsistencies are found in the document, the applicant will not be issued a new PTS. After successful issuance of a new passport, the old copy will be destroyed.

If a person cannot write the document himself, then an employee of the registration center will do it for a small fee. The application is created in a single copy.

How to change a title without the previous owner

Bars Ruslan, in other words, if you went to the office to have a DCP prepared for you, for which they charge 500-800 rubles, then they immediately make an entry in the PTS and put their stamp in the PTS and write down the DCP number there.

Leopard Ivan, yes, I understood everything, I already answered you in detail, if you yourself cannot write an application for a new PTS, there seem to be girls running around usually with insurance, etc., etc., you give them 300 rubles and they will write you an application and hand over everything.

What to do if the PTS is over (running out of space)?

The applicant, according to the PTS Regulations, can be the owner or owner of the car.

An application, a standard form of which is provided to citizens by officials on duty.

The application is filled out in a single copy; it must contain the citizen’s request to replace the passport.

The paper should not contain blots, strikeouts, or corrections. The presence of extra commas, letters, numbers or any other designations is not allowed.

I've run out of space in the PTS, what should I do?

Since, according to the law of the Russian Federation, a driver does not have the right to drive on the road without a vehicle license, obtaining a new document on time is a matter of paramount importance. The passport received at the registration point is equal in legal force to the original and takes over all its functions.

Passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation. Statement.

The form can be picked up at the registration point. All questions about filling out can be asked to employees.

Replacing a car's title - documents, cost of state duty, is compulsory motor insurance required?

If a car is imported into the territory of the Russian Federation from abroad, a PTS is issued by customs authorities during customs clearance of the car.

If a car is purchased from a car dealer, then it is the dealership’s employees who fill out the first title for the new car.

Finally, if the PTS is lost or has become unusable and needs to be replaced, in this case the replacement of the PTS is carried out by the traffic police. Please note that replacing a car’s title and issuing a duplicate are not the same thing.

How to replace the title if there is no place to enter the new owner when selling the car

If changes are made, the reasons must be indicated and the relevant information must be entered based on them.

  1. authorities of the State Traffic Inspectorate in case of replacement of the document or issuance of its duplicate.
  2. customs authorities when importing a car from abroad;
  3. by the manufacturer, if the car is purchased on the primary market;

In the latter case, it is necessary to understand the difference between a replaced document and a duplicate one.

Passed.(((Petr.

All registration actions with a car on the territory of the Russian Federation are carried out only if you have an insurance policy!!!

And since the previous owner’s policy had already been surrendered, he could no longer take action to change the title. This explanation was given to us by the deputy head of the Vologda traffic police and the inspector.

who carries out registration activities.

I, in turn, also could not perform any actions with the registration of the car.

Is it possible to change a title without the owner under a purchase and sale agreement?

The Ministry's order dated November 24, 2008 contains confirmation that a valid registration record is created by the traffic police authorities only after the submission of an application by the current owner.

Accordingly, if there is no space in the PTS, government officials are required to give you a new passport.

According to the amendments made to the Regulations on PTS approved.

by joint order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation No. 26, the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation No. 18 and the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation No. 80 dated 19.

I've run out of space in the PTS, what should I do?

This application is submitted to the traffic police (MREO). If replacement of the title is necessary due to running out of space when selling a car, the question arises: “Who should submit documents to the relevant authorities?”

According to the law, replacing the vehicle's title is the responsibility of the owner selling the car (it is logical to get the documents in order in order to sell the car).

However, in practice it happens differently, and often the new owner is forced to replace the title, and the previous owner of the car may not be present.

What to do if the PTS runs out of space to enter new data

If there is no discrepancy between the specified data and those entered into the computer database, the procedure for replacing the vehicle passport begins.

To do this, you need to compare the transport information with that specified in the document.

Particular attention is paid to the characteristics of the car, such as color, model of units, identification numbers.

After completing the vehicle identification procedure and confirming the authenticity of the document provided for the change, a new document form is issued.

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Where are the owners listed in the document?

PTS (Vehicle Passport) is a document of title that goes to the real car owner after the sale and purchase and confirms that the vehicle is his property and he has all rights of ownership to it.

Initially, the PTS is manufactured by the manufacturer, because it must thoroughly reflect all the details and designs related to the technical condition and features of the car.

Immediately after leaving the factory and its first sale, the vehicle is transferred along with its passport to its owner. With further sales, it will be transferred to its new owners.

The PTS looks like a blue book with some greenish-yellow stripes on the “field”.

The paper is made with a form that has all degrees of protection - from watermarks to holographic logos, a metallized strip on the title page, as well as the original State Sign imprint.

Everything is produced using a typographic method, and the finished product is classified as strict reporting forms.

Places for filling out information about the current owner are located in this document in the following order:

  1. First, information about the car owner begins to fill out the document on the title page - in columns No. 20 and 21.

  2. After this owner changes, information about the new owner is entered on the double page of the document. Here everything is divided into 4 blocks, each of which requires filling out information for only one owner. The spread must also be filled out correctly - first they take space in the top left block.

  3. Only when all 4 blocks of the internal part of the passport are filled with data about the different owners that the car has had throughout the history of its existence, can you move on to the last page of the document. Here the page is divided exactly the same as on the spread, only there will be 2 blocks, not 4. Filling begins in order - from the top block, not the bottom.

There are some peculiarities in filling out each of their blocks. The fact is that, informatively, some of its lines can be filled in by the owners themselves after the purchase and sale transaction has been completed. But this must be done not only without any blots or errors, but also knowing where and what to write.

Here are simple instructions for filling out the block by owners:

  1. Where it is suggested to fill in your full name. the current owner, and write his last name, first name and patronymic in full without initial abbreviations.
  2. Below, immediately below the line of personal data, they show the registration data of the place of residence (propiska), which is taken from the civil passport.
  3. Even lower, the next line is the date when the purchase and sale transaction was completed. It must be identical to the agreement that was concluded in the transaction.
  4. The title document must be a purchase and sale agreement (hereinafter referred to as the contract of sale) with or without a number; if there is no number, then the abbreviation “b/n” is entered.
  5. The line below asks the parties to sign. Both private owners sign – the old owner of the car and its new owner.
  6. In the part of the document “MP”, where it is indicated that stamps are required, filling in stamps is carried out only by legal entities or individual entrepreneurs. Individuals do not need to put anything there.

Only the one shown in red is shown in the photo.


part of the block that must be filled out by car owners.

The second part of it is filled out by specialists of the State Traffic Inspectorate in the department where one or another owner of the car applies to re-register it.

What to do if you need to make an entry, but there is no space

Many car owners ask themselves the question of what to do if they run out of space on the title.

Moreover, after purchasing a car, if the new owner was entered in the last free column, they usually don’t think about it, but when the question of selling the car arises, many are lost and don’t know what to do.

In fact, everything is very simple.

If there is no longer room in the PTS to add a new owner, then you will have to go to the MREO of the State Traffic Safety Inspectorate and write an application for the issuance of a new PTS.

This procedure does not take much time and in most cases a new PTS can be obtained on the day of application.

As a rule, when making changes to the title, the car does not need to be presented for inspection. Such a need may arise only if the documents arouse suspicion among the traffic police officer.

Then he will tell you when the car will be inspected, and if after the inspection the suspicions are not dispelled, then you will have to go for an examination to check the legal purity of the car.

Required documents for replacement

If the place in the PTS runs out, you will have to go to the MREO for a duplicate. This is what your PTS will now be called, since the original will have to be handed over to a traffic police officer.

To replace, you must collect the following documents:

  1. Applicant's passport.
  2. Original PTS where the place ended. This document will be verified and subsequently destroyed. But since it contains important information, the new PTS will have the note “Issued in exchange for...”
  3. OSAGO policy. This document is required for any registration actions with the car.
  4. A document that confirms ownership. In most cases, this is a purchase and sale agreement. It is important that the data in the contract coincide with what is recorded in the title when the owner changes, and that the number and date of the contract are entered in the corresponding line of the document.
  5. Power of attorney to carry out registration actions , including making changes to the title and obtaining a duplicate if the owner of the car did not come with the application.
  6. Statement. The form is standard, you can download it on the Internet, you can fill it out yourself or use the services of companies that often work near the traffic police. It is important that the application cannot contain corrections or blots. All numbers and letters must be easily distinguishable and not cause discrepancies.
  7. Receipt for payment of state duty. According to Art. 333.33 of the Tax Code, the state duty for issuing a new PTS is 800 rubles.

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Replacing an old PTS means that you will also have to replace the registration certificate, since it indicates the PTS number. The fee for replacing a certificate is 500 rubles.

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What documents are needed to replace a PTS when changing a surname are listed in the article: replacing a PTS when changing a surname.

What to be afraid of when buying a duplicate PTS, read here.

Sample application

An application for a replacement vehicle title must be submitted on a special form. You can find it on the Internet and download it by filling it out on your computer. It is also acceptable to fill it out manually, as long as there are no errors in it.

The document is very easy to fill out. The owner enters his last name and writes the registration action that needs to be completed. In this case, this is the issuance of a duplicate PTS.

If there are any doubts about the correctness of filling out, then you should seek help either from a traffic police officer, or use the services of organizations that help with filling out such papers.

The next section contains information about the owner and the vehicle. All fields must be filled out legibly. The car data is copied from the title, which is in the hands of the owner.

If the applicant is acting under a power of attorney, then it is necessary to fill out the lower part indicating where, when and by whom the power of attorney was issued.

It is important to understand that a power of attorney to perform registration actions with a car must be certified by a notary.

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Where to contact

Given the realities of today, there are two options.

You can contact the traffic police MREO. It is necessary to find out on what days the PTS is replaced, since often the schedule is designed so that registration does not interfere with passing exams and issuing licenses.

Having found out the opening hours and collected a package of documents, you must come to the appointment with a completed application.

The second option is a little simpler, since you can request this service on the State Services website. To do this, you need to register on the portal and have access to the Internet. That is, you can submit an application without leaving your home and without even getting up from your favorite chair.

If the applicant already has registration on the portal, then the following must be done:

  • tab - Service Categories;
  • select the tab - Transport and driving;
  • the next tab is Vehicle Registration. Here you can submit an application online, also pay the fee and make an appointment;
  • category - Registration and issuance of documents registration of vehicles with the State Traffic Inspectorate.

It should also be noted that when applying through the State Services portal, the applicant receives a 30% discount on state fees.

Moreover, a discount is offered for paying the state fee for any action related to car registration:

ServiceState duty under the Tax CodeFee when paying through the State Services portal
Issuance of registration plates for a car20001400
Issuance of a registration certificate500350
Issuance of a duplicate PTS800560
Change in PTS350245

By selecting this tab, the system offers an algorithm of actions, which includes:

  • filling out an application on the website;
  • an indication of the documents that must be submitted to the MREO;
  • registration with the traffic police department;
  • payment of state duty online.

After the registration has been made, the applicant will need to appear at the appointed time with a full package of documents and a receipt for payment of the state fee.

When paying online, the system will offer to save the payment document. It must be printed and attached to the main papers.

Signing up for State Services will not only save money on paying fees, but also gain time, since you won’t have to stand in line at the MREO.

Procedure for issuing a duplicate

To obtain a duplicate, you must appear at the traffic police MREO either at the time appointed by appointment or in the general queue on visiting days.

You must have a complete package of documents on hand, since their absence, in accordance with the Administrative. The regulations on vehicle registration serve as the basis for refusal to provide registration actions.

The documents are submitted to the traffic police officer and he verifies the identity of the applicant, as well as the authenticity of the documents. They will check whether fines for traffic violations have been paid.

The car is checked against theft databases. It is also checked whether this PTS has been put on the wanted list.

After such an inspection, if the inspector has no suspicions, he makes a note in the application and takes away the documents. In this case, the car is not presented for inspection.

The new PTS will be issued on the same day, and the old one will remain in the traffic police department and will be destroyed. The duplicate will have a mark indicating that it was issued to replace the old one, indicating its number.

If the inspector, when preparing documents, has suspicions regarding forgery of documents or unauthorized changes to the car, he will schedule an inspection of the vehicle.

If suspicions remain after the inspection, the vehicle will be sent for examination. In this case, the process of replacing the PTS will last up to 30 days.

How to change a title without the previous owner

pay the state duty - replace the title and then sell the car. or the new owner will run around the offices of the traffic police - trying to explain the situation to the authorities in the traffic police. Passed.(((Petr.

All registration actions with a car on the territory of the Russian Federation are carried out only if you have an insurance policy!!! And since the previous owner’s policy had already been surrendered, he could no longer take action to change the title.

Replacing a car's title - documents, cost of state duty, is compulsory motor insurance required?

The vehicle passport, as we have already mentioned, contains all the important information about the car and its components, for example, body number, car color, etc.

as well as about all owners of the vehicle throughout its history, and about all actions to register the car with the traffic police.

The purpose of introducing this automobile document was to introduce order into the process of admitting vehicles to road traffic; in addition, the PTS helps combat car thefts and ensures control over the payment of customs duties.

What to do if the PTS runs out of space to enter new data

When changing this information, you must make a note indicating the reasons for the change and the new data.

After submitting documents to the official conducting the procedure for replacing a vehicle passport, and in the absence of reasons for refusing to carry out the procedure (such a reason may be the absence of the old owner of the car), all data specified in the submitted documents is checked.

Is it possible to change a title without the owner under a purchase and sale agreement?

The Ministry's order dated November 24, 2008 contains confirmation that a valid registration record is created by the traffic police authorities only after the submission of an application by the current owner.

Accordingly, if there is no space in the PTS, government officials are required to give you a new passport.

According to the amendments made to the Regulations on PTS approved.

by joint order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation No. 26, the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation No. 18 and the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation No. 80 dated 19.

They didn’t have time to complete the general project, and the former owner left to work north until the end of the year. And now a question for the experts. how to register a car?

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Video: How to correctly read the PTS Vehicle Passport (Advice from RDM-Import)

The vehicle registration certificate, which is abbreviated as PTS, is the main document of the vehicle.

It is used when applying for insurance, passing technical inspection and contains information not only about the technical characteristics of the car, but also the owner of the vehicle.

When selling a car, the new owner is included in the title, and aged vehicles can quite expectedly change several owners, and the space in the document runs out.

To do this, you need to contact the traffic police and provide them with a package of documents and pay the state fee, after which a duplicate will be issued with free columns, and on this basis it is quite possible to sell the car and re-register it.

Purpose of the document

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The PTS is the main document for the car. It contains comprehensive information about the vehicle and the history of its ownership by different citizens. Each fact of a legally significant transaction is subject to mandatory recording in the technical equipment passport

For this reason, it is so important to have a title with free columns, which makes it possible to re-register the car at any time

The importance of the PTS exceeds the value of the registration certificate, since it is issued when the car starts operating and is stored for the entire time the car will be used. Without a vehicle passport, not a single significant action is possible

It must be presented in the following situations:

Without a vehicle passport, not a single significant action is possible. It must be presented in the following situations:

  1. Permission to operate the vehicle on the roads.
  2. Control of the import of vehicles with the issuance of a Russian vehicle passport.
  3. Identification of a car in case of theft or theft.

IMPORTANT! If the owner is not included in the title, he does not have the right to operate the car until the corresponding entry on the transfer of rights is made in the document. For violation of the document registration procedure, the driver will be fined and incur administrative liability.

If a motorist is driving by proxy, this fact is not a legal transfer of rights to the new owner, and therefore does not require recording in the PTS.

You should know how many seats are in the PTS. There are only 6 places in the document to enter the new owner. Thus, you can transfer the right 6 times, after which you will need to contact the traffic police department for the issuance of a new PTS to replace the completed one. It should also be taken into account that the first entry is made at the manufacturing plant, the second is filled out for the dealer who then sold the car to a private person.

Is it possible to re-register a car under a purchase and sale agreement?

You cannot sell the car only after concluding a purchase and sale agreement. Having only a contract, it is impossible to carry out any registration actions with the car.

The purchase of a vehicle is always accompanied by the entry of the new owner into the car’s passport or at least receipt of this document.

The DCP contains information about the seller and the buyer, as well as all data about the car that is included in the title (make, VIN number and other characteristics). The information must be consistent in all completed papers.

If the owner of the car upon purchase provided a title without a place for the new owner, it is better not to complete the transaction until you receive a new passport for the car.

Or if you don’t want to wait, sign an agreement and immediately go with the former owner of the car to MREO for re-registration.

Otherwise, if only you show up with the DCP and the old PTS, there may be problems from the traffic police, and the re-registration process itself will take not 1, but 7-30 days.

When filling out all the columns in the PTS, the document must be changed. The ideal option would be if this was done by the last owner of the car before it was sold.

If this does not happen and upon concluding the contract it was discovered that there is no space in the PTS, it is better for the old and new owners to immediately go to the MREO.

But when the buyer was inattentive and did not know all the nuances of concluding a transaction, and only then discovered that there was no space in the PTS, he may have problems with the traffic police when replacing the document, which may affect the time frame for receiving all the papers.

Therefore, it is better to carefully examine the vehicle’s passport before purchasing and, if there is no space in it, ask the seller to replace the document.

How to reduce the amount of horsepower in a PTS is described in the article: how to reduce horsepower in a PTS.

How to distinguish an original PTS from a duplicate, see on the page.

Find out what documents are needed to restore a vehicle title after disposal from this information.

How to change a title without the previous owner

This article is for those who are buying a car. For those who are selling their car, it will be interesting to read here. Purchasing a car once you've found the right car for you is a two-part process. This is the execution of a purchase and sale transaction and the re-registration of the car in your name without deregistration.

In this article, we will analyze in detail how a car purchase and sale transaction occurs if you decide to buy a car.

There is no space in the title to enter the new owner, I can’t register

1 tbsp. 223 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation), and 10 days are allotted for registration.

The list of documents required to undergo maintenance is determined by the Federal Law. “Article 17 Federal Law-170 dated July 1, 2011

Conditions for carrying out a technical inspection" 1. A technical inspection is carried out at the choice of the owner of the vehicle or his representative by any technical inspection operator at any technical inspection point, regardless of the place of registration of the vehicle. 2.

Replacing a vehicle passport (PTS)

Let's get started. In what cases is it necessary to replace the PTS? There are 2 possible situations: Replacing a PTS that has become unusable.

Replacement of a vehicle that has run out of free space.

The second situation is much more common, since the vehicle passport has only 6 fields for entering information about the owners.

In what cases is it not necessary to change the PTS? If there is free space left in the PTS and the document itself is in satisfactory condition, then its replacement is not required.

For example, when changing the last name of the owner of the vehicle, you only need to make changes to the title, no replacement of the document is required.

What to do if the PTS is over (running out of space)?

It is necessary for: streamlining the procedure for admitting vehicles to participate in road traffic; tightening control over vehicles imported into the Russian Federation; increasing the effectiveness of preventing theft and carjackings.

Reasons for replacing a passport Among the main reasons for replacing a PTS one can note: damage to the passport; filling out all fields of the passport when there is no space left to make new entries; changing the last name of the owner of the car; change of place of registration of the owner of the vehicle.

What to do if there is no space left in the PTS?

In order to obtain a duplicate PTS, issued as a replacement for the old passport, the driver must contact the registration authority with the following documents: Passport of the citizen who states the requirement to replace the vehicle passport.

Replacing a vehicle's title (no space available when changing name): procedure, price?

What does a duplicate PTS look like (photo, sample)?). The PTS is replaced in the following cases: when the last name of the car owner changes; if the PTS is spoiled or damaged; if there is no space in the title to record new owners of the car; when changing the surname or place of registration of the driver of the car.

Issuing a duplicate PTS and replacing a PTS are two different things that should not be confused.

Selling a car without deregistration and keeping the license plates

According to the new regulations, when selling a vehicle, owners of cars and motorcycles no longer need to deregister it with the traffic police.

Next, we will consider in what situations such a situation is possible, and what the car owner needs to do. It is worth noting that the sale of motor vehicles without deregistration.

is feasible only when the previous and future owners of the car live in the same region.

Modern sale of a car without deregistration with the traffic police

Before this, in order to sell a car, it was necessary to first deregister it with the traffic police, then obtain temporary license plates, only after which it was possible to transfer the car to the buyer.

After the innovations came into force, it became possible to sell a car without deregistration and applying to the traffic police. But such a sale can only be completed if the buyer lives in the same region as the seller.

In this case, he is also given the opportunity to keep the old car number plates. The new owner may not change the car number. This was the case until 2014.

New rules for car registration in 2021

The innovations relate directly to simplifying the procedure for registering a car, preserving state registration plates for the car owner and obtaining their duplicates.

Now, if a vehicle is sold, it does not need to be deregistered; this is done by the new owner of the car simultaneously with the registration of the vehicle.

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How to change a title without the previous owner

In this article, we will analyze in detail how a car purchase and sale transaction occurs if you decide to buy a car.
This information will help you successfully close the deal. On October 15, 2013, a new Administrative Regulation for the implementation of the state service for vehicle registration came into force in Russia. According to this regulation, a car is not deregistered before sale; now this is done simultaneously with registration by the new owner, and state license plates are assigned to the car.

There is no space in the title to enter the new owner, I can’t register

1 tbsp. 223 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation), and 10 days are allotted for registration.

The list of documents required to undergo maintenance is determined by the Federal Law.

“Article 17 Federal Law-170 dated July 1, 2011. Conditions for technical inspection” 1.

A technical inspection is carried out at the choice of the vehicle owner or his representative by any technical inspection operator at any technical inspection point, regardless of the place of registration of the vehicle.

2.

Replacing a vehicle passport (PTS)

The same applies to changes in other personal data of the owner. How much does it cost to replace a PTS? The state fee for replacing a PTS is 800 rubles (Tax Code of the Russian Federation, part 2, article 333.33, paragraph 36).

What is needed to replace the PTS? To replace your vehicle passport you will need the following documents: application; passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation; receipt of payment of state duty; old PTS.

I would like to note that when replacing a vehicle title, traffic police officers do not check the vehicle.

An application for a replacement vehicle title is drawn up on a standard form.

What to do if the PTS is over (running out of space)?

The applicant, according to the PTS Regulations, can be the owner or owner of the car. An application, a standard form of which is provided to citizens by officials on duty.

The application is filled out in a single copy; it must contain the citizen’s request to replace the passport. The paper should not contain blots, cross-outs, or corrections.

The presence of extra commas, letters, numbers or any other designations is not allowed.

Replacing a vehicle's title (no space available when changing name): procedure, price?

What does a duplicate PTS look like (photo, sample)?).

The PTS is replaced in the following cases: when the last name of the car owner changes; if the PTS is spoiled or damaged; if there is no space in the title to record new owners of the car; when changing the surname or place of registration of the driver of the car.

Issuing a duplicate PTS and replacing a PTS are two different things that should not be confused.

Selling a car without deregistration and keeping the license plates

It is worth noting that the sale of motor vehicles without deregistration. is feasible only when the previous and future owners of the car live in the same region.

If the new owner is a resident of another region, the purchase and sale of the car occurs according to the standard scheme (removal and registration of the car).

In order to sell a car without deregistering it, the owner of the car needs to make a purchase and sale agreement and transfer the registration certificate and passport of the car to the buyer.

Modern sale of a car without deregistration with the traffic police

In this case, he is also given the opportunity to keep the old car number plates.

The new owner may not change the car number. This was the case until 2014. In 2014, the rules were amended to make it possible to sell a car without deregistering it, even if the person selling it and the buyer live and are registered in different regions.

New rules for car registration in 2021

Thus, “Transit” registration plates are a thing of the past and will be issued to the traffic police only for vehicles leaving the Russian Federation. However, if the new owner of the vehicle turns out to be irresponsible or for some reason has not registered the vehicle in the prescribed manner, then the former owner has the right, 10 days after the sale of the car, to contact the registration department of the traffic police to terminate the registration of the vehicle and make information about the new owner in the traffic police database.

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Useful tips

  • If the previous owner, according to him, was denied a replacement title, then you can try to do it together.
  • It has been noticed that the presence of a lawyer in the traffic police has an extremely beneficial effect on its employees, removing unnecessary attempts to groundlessly bureaucratically slow down the issue.
  • If the owner sells you a car without adding you to the title, then be sure to make sure that the insurance will remain valid until re-registration. Otherwise, it will be quite reasonably denied.
  • Just in case, keep in mind that PTS and STS handed over to the traffic police are subject to physical destruction after reconciliation.

How to change a title without the previous owner

How to replace a PTS if it runs out of space: 4 simple steps

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pay the state duty - replace the title and then sell the car.

or the new owner will run around the offices of the traffic police - trying to explain the situation to the authorities in the traffic police. Passed.((( Petr. all registration actions with a car on the territory of the Russian Federation are carried out only if you have an insurance policy!!!

And since the previous owner’s policy had already been surrendered, he could no longer take action to change the title. This explanation was given to us by the deputy head of the Vologda traffic police and the inspector.

who carries out registration activities. I, in turn, also could not perform any actions with the registration of the car.

What to do if the PTS is over (running out of space)?

The applicant, according to the PTS Regulations, can be the owner or owner of the car.

An application, a standard form of which is provided to citizens by officials on duty. The application is filled out in a single copy; it must contain the citizen’s request to replace the passport.

The paper should not contain blots, strikeouts, or corrections. The presence of extra commas, letters, numbers or any other designations is not allowed.

If a citizen who has come to the authority to change the PTS is not sure that he can fill out the application correctly, then it can be completed independently by a specialist working at the registration point for a fee.

The old PTS, in which all the empty lines are filled in, must be handed over to the traffic police.

They didn’t have time to complete the general project, and the former owner left to work north until the end of the year. And now a question for the experts. how to register a car?

and how do you even drive it? (Should you rewrite the policy document every 10 days for two months? Or should you go and get insurance in his name again and drive under a regular power of attorney?) or is it still possible to somehow change the title without it?

1.1. Repeated commission of an administrative offense provided for in Part 1 of this article shall entail the imposition of an administrative fine in the amount of five thousand rubles or deprivation of the right to drive vehicles for a period of one to three months.

They turned me around at window 6 (where the queue is by appointment) and told me that the fee was not 500, but 800 rubles, and they also asked for insurance (I didn’t think to take it and left it in the car).

I was indignant that the fee was 500 rubles, but they told me: pay extra, and then come again. I had to pay extra.

Moreover, in the new PTS, I, as the owner, was not entered in the first empty column on the second page, but in the penultimate one (that is, at the beginning of the last page).

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